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Glenn Geiss's avatar

I support one single ritual for our jurisdiction. There should be a standard that all masons should be held to, even if that standard is a bare minimum.

But...

There is nothing stopping a lodge from cracking open the Scottish Rite ritual(s) for study. There is nothing stopping a lodge from performing one of these degrees, as long as it's not a substitute for a brother's progression. It can be treated like all of the other unofficial "fun" degrees we have around the state. In fact, if a lodge was to spend the effort to learn an entirely new ritual for presentation to the brothers, I'd attend, even if it was just out of curiosity.

A brother's progression is entirely up to him. There are many factors that dictate when they are ready for the next degree, and everyone will progress at different speeds. There is nothing wrong with getting all three degrees within one year, if the brother was able to absorb the material. Some can, some can't. They have a lifetime after receiving the degrees to dig into them deeper. Most don't, but that's not because they don't have the opportunity.

Our GL should never, ever, recognize another GL that doesn't conform to the basic landmarks of recognition.

Cameron M. Bailey's avatar

>>>There is nothing stopping a lodge from performing one of these degrees, as long as it's not a >>>substitute for a brother's progression. It can be treated like all of the other unofficial "fun" >>>degrees we have around the state.

I actually don't know that this might be true. Depending on who the GM was at the time, I could see a massive freak out if a Lodge attempted to exemplify something like one of the Scottish Rite versions of one of our Craft Degrees.

And I don't mean conferring the Degree, I just mean acting it out for people to see.

I think there could be a massive amount of pushback to a Lodge attempting this.

>>>Our GL should never, ever, recognize another GL that doesn't conform to the basic landmarks >>>of recognition.

I'm not sure if this is referencing the bit about Exclusive Territorial Jurisdiction, or Continental style Freemasonry.

We already recognize Grand Lodges that don't exercise Exclusive Territorial Jurisdiction, although we don't really talk about it much. But, of course that had to be done in order to recognize Prince Hall Grand Lodges in the United States. And it is done frequently elsewhere in the world. In those cases, we will recognize two or more GL's in the same territory as long as they both exist via treaty.

I do think that if we were to open a dialog with those Grand Lodges/Orients practicing Continental style Masonry we could likely move to a place of understanding and compromise, without necessarily violating our own beliefs about Freemasonry. We were clearly moving that way during World War 1, when US Masons, from at least some Jurisdictions were permitted to visit Lodges of the Grand Orient of France. When the war ended, we quickly ran back to our own corners, but at least one of our Lodges here in Washington has a fine collection of artifacts that were given to it's Masons stationed in France by Grand Orient Lodges during that war.

The Scuttlebutt's avatar

12. Slow down, not speed up our degree process. Yes, and: I'm of the belief that the "lets make it easier" movement is a dramatic mistake, maybe a catastrophic one. In this modern world, we've developed an attitude of "we've got to make it easier!" "It's all a numbers game!" "People won't come if it's too hard!" This is true of all fraternities, and organizations, more especially this of ours.

Yet, when you look at military recruiting numbers for example, it appears that this philosophy is possibly less correct than conventional wisdom would have it be.

There is one and only one branch of the US Armed Forces that does not regularly fall short of recruiting goals. The USMC.

Within the various branches, which parts of the organizations have less problems filling their rolls?

The ones who are more exclusive, like the AF PJs, the US Submarine Service, SEALs, Delta, the Rangers, Fighter pilots...

The point here is that those outfits state boldly "ARE YOU GOOD ENOUGH to be one of us? PROVE IT!"

That challenge never goes out of fashion.

Exclusivity is NOT a bad word. Make our existence known, make our goals and beliefs known, show our works, and then ask, "Can you be a part of this? Do you have the dedication, and character? Would you like to find out? To be one, ask one."

Clayton M. M. La Vigne's avatar

Nailed it. Excellent, Brother.

Cameron M. Bailey's avatar

>>>"ARE YOU GOOD ENOUGH to be one of us? PROVE IT!"

Exactly right. Thank you Brother. That is the attitude we should take when considering men for Freemasonry.

Clayton M. M. La Vigne's avatar

Your take on No. 10 strikes the right balance. We don't want to abolish the Concordant bodies in a foolhardy attempt to bolster Lodge attendance, but at the same time, those Concordants shouldn't be trying to sell their group like a Kirby vacuum cleaner. Yeah, I know their leadership pushes the sales pitches, but from personal experience, I know it doesn't work.

I joined the Scottish Rite in 2000, right after my first term as Worshipful Master. I joined the York Rite 9 years later, towards the beginning of my 2nd term in the East. I got much more out of the York Rite ceremonies than I did from the Scottish Rite, despite the absolutely brilliant degree work from the Olympia Valley. If the two Concordants were swapped in when I received the degrees, I'm sure I'd be active in the Scottish Rite instead. I wish I had waited longer before joining the Scottish Rite.

Cameron M. Bailey's avatar

I'll pick on the Shrine for just a second, but the criticism isn't directed only at that group. It's just that the example comes closest to my mind. These are two things that have happened quite recently, in my town.

-The local Shrine Installed its officers at a banquet facility in the building directly behind my Lodge. A Lodge scheduled its own Installation in our building, to start right after the Shrine's event ended. Out of all those Shriners, only a single one made the extremely short walk over to attend the Lodge's Installation.

-That same local Shrine got into contact with two of my Lodge's Entered Apprentices somehow or another and pestered them both to join. Long before either of them were even Master Masons. Before either of them had even proven proficiency on the EA Degree.

The Shrine does a heck of a lot of amazing and good work. It is a wonderful organization. But, in my area it is dying. Quickly dying. That quick death is directly the result of doing things like the two things mentioned above.