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Hugo Ramirez's avatar

It is just the same here in Brazil. I remember when I was still an Active DeMolay and a Freemason used to tell us that "we can't even decide the pizza toppings for the after-meeting meal, how are we supposed to be running this world government?"

I'll give you a quick example of the funny kind of nonsense that goes around since ever. I remember in the late 1990s where there was this text running around, exposing the Order of DeMolay as a Satanic group. Are you ready for the proof? Well, "DeMolay" sounds like "Demo lei" in Portuguese, which supposedly meant "lei do Demo" = "Devil's law". Proven. Q.E.D.

I stand with you that "free thought" is a treasure that Freemasonry has defended for centuries and sits close to its heart. I have been in countless discussions with people all over the political spectrum, taking the stand that a "free market of ideas" is positive and that the solution for misinformation is not censorship, but shedding more light onto ideas.

Of course we should take note of bad actors, swindlers and conmen, but our efforts are better spent on good works than trying to stop other people from saying whatever they spin in their spare time. Our great forefather Pike writes on that a few times of "Morals and Dogma", still a great source of knowledge for us.

Glenn Geiss's avatar

Went on a few dates with a woman that eventually dumped me because I belonged to the masons. She just couldn't handle the fact that there were things I couldn't talk about and that really bugged her.

And yeah, the arguments claiming of some sort of illuminati conspiracy are stupid. Famous youtube video of a guy claiming to be a 90th degree mason, and he claimed there were higher ranks than that, and unless you're up that high you will never find the truth, and anyone that is that high up would never admit it. Such a perfect argument proving both nothing and everything.

While I don't think that particular bill will go anywhere, what frightens me is that someone thought it was a worthy enough idea to submit it. I have to think that although it's obviously aimed at right wing politics, they have to know that it can apply to anything on either side of the isle and that it is nothing but draconian tyrannical suppression of speech. And someone, or more than one someone, thinks that's ok.

Scary shit going on in this country.

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