A BROTHER IN MY LODGE IN NY, WAS ORIGINALLY FROM A NEAR EAST COUNTRY. HIS LAST NAME WAS "ELIA", AND HE WAS CATHOLIC. WE ALL TREASURED THAT HE COULD NOT PRONOUNCE THE 2ND DEGREE PASSWORD CORRECTLY?
I believe this to be a reference to "pass" words in general. It's always been my conjecture that the importance lies in the difference between true words and pass words. Purging the lodge becomes different in this degree and we have this as the reason.
It's the reason we are "passed" to this degree.
Without divuldging too much, I think there's a lot to think about on this transition. Even in the 1700's, this reference would have seemed forced and outdated. It's not unlike the lessons we learn in architecture. In the early 1900's, there is a reference to our jurisdiction considering changing some of the architectural lessons due to them being seen as simplistic to many. What a very wise PGM of our jurisdiction said in his speech at our annual communication was that the lesson wasn't on Greek architecture specifically. It was, like so many of our lessons, allegorical and represented the entire body of the craft.
I would encourage you to look at this from a different angle. One that explains transitions. I believe there is a lot of allegorical value in this speech. One that could be seen to represent our own transitions and one that could represent guarding the west gate.
I could go into more depth here, but I'm currently on a park bench in Paris overlooking the Seine River... I'm going to get back to it.
I now understand why you said it was a disturbing story last night. Not quite the direction I expected it to go. Thank you for hosting a thought provoking topic for Rummer and Grapes, and I look forward to picking your brain on the OES continuation of this one, if time permits.
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MWPGM BAILEY,
A BROTHER IN MY LODGE IN NY, WAS ORIGINALLY FROM A NEAR EAST COUNTRY. HIS LAST NAME WAS "ELIA", AND HE WAS CATHOLIC. WE ALL TREASURED THAT HE COULD NOT PRONOUNCE THE 2ND DEGREE PASSWORD CORRECTLY?
I believe this to be a reference to "pass" words in general. It's always been my conjecture that the importance lies in the difference between true words and pass words. Purging the lodge becomes different in this degree and we have this as the reason.
It's the reason we are "passed" to this degree.
Without divuldging too much, I think there's a lot to think about on this transition. Even in the 1700's, this reference would have seemed forced and outdated. It's not unlike the lessons we learn in architecture. In the early 1900's, there is a reference to our jurisdiction considering changing some of the architectural lessons due to them being seen as simplistic to many. What a very wise PGM of our jurisdiction said in his speech at our annual communication was that the lesson wasn't on Greek architecture specifically. It was, like so many of our lessons, allegorical and represented the entire body of the craft.
I would encourage you to look at this from a different angle. One that explains transitions. I believe there is a lot of allegorical value in this speech. One that could be seen to represent our own transitions and one that could represent guarding the west gate.
I could go into more depth here, but I'm currently on a park bench in Paris overlooking the Seine River... I'm going to get back to it.
I’m interested in picking your brain regarding the architectural references when time permits…
You'll have to wait until the new year.
Our Good Brother Brett is... occupied. 😁
Working hard, or hardly working? 😂
... a little of both. 😎
I now understand why you said it was a disturbing story last night. Not quite the direction I expected it to go. Thank you for hosting a thought provoking topic for Rummer and Grapes, and I look forward to picking your brain on the OES continuation of this one, if time permits.
Read Judges 11 of the Old Testament for a review of the scripture concerning the Judge Jephthah.
The "h" is silent in Mexico and the "b" is pronounced "bveh"... so with two "h"s and a
"b" I wouldn't have done good crossing the Rio Grande when I moved down! lol
Regardless of where they get it, sick minds find justification for their perverse actions. Sometimes they just make stuff up.